Gabboim Tally Victory in Court for Control of 770
The Gabboim and Krinsky were back in Court yesterday for verbal arguments over the control of 770.
Although the Judge did not give a ruling in Court yesterday, most observers feel that during verbal arguments the Judge made it clear that the Gabboim are in control of the shul in 770. This seems to put to rest the fear that R. Krinsky would be given control of the happenings downstairs.
R. Krinsky, on behalf of Aguch, owns the building, (the Gabboim had never disputed this). The only issue is who controls the outside of the building and the cornerstone that is mounted at the entrance. It is expected that a ruling will soon be given on this.
posted by Raya @ Thursday, June 01, 2006
12 comments
12 Comments:
Bh Krinsky has won the case again.
Contrary to what certain posters here at daas hakohol were saying.
Uvou bonecha lidvir besecha.
Yisroel, Australia,
It's a strange world "Down Under" and you seem to see things "upside down".
On this Planet, most of us see this as a very major victory for the Gabaim, who represent the the majority of CH residents, who don't want Yudel controlling anything in the Shull.
The Judge agreed with the Gaboim on this.
The only thing Yudel has left now, is he can put Zaya OUTSIDE the building, but "Kaasher Hacheloso Linpol - Nofol Tipol..." and it's only a matter of time before Yudel will lose on this issue too, IYH, eventually.
Yisroel,
The best proof that this is a major Nitzochon for the Right, the Gabaaim and a major defeat for the Left is the fact the the Lefty Web Site, Shmais and ch.info, are mysteriously silent about the most recent court hearing.
CH.info's silence is Deafening!
It's laughable that CH.info reported, Erev Shvuos about the judge's decision in favor of the Chabad Congregation in Hollywood Florida!
He knows about that, but reports nothing about what the Judge said in favor of Congregation Lubavitch in 770, that Krinsky has no say in anything inside the Shull:-)
Apparently it's too painful for the Left to concede defeat.
Krinsky?
Where is you respect for a person the Rebbe appointed to be a leader of the mosdos?
This site has no respect for anyone who ever had any power or staure in the past. It only respects new rabbonim, new mazkirim, new people who only just joined lubavitch.
listen guys,
you can fight over rabonim & whatever you want in Crown Heights, but please do not stal 770 away from us.
770 does not belong to the community of Crown Heights, it belongs to every Chossid around the world, whom the majority believe that the Rebbe's mosdos and those in charge should control it and NOT the community.
Just look at recent farbrengens on Gimmel Tammuz, where the same residents of CH come to 770 while at Aguch's farbrenges in BR you can find Chassidim from every corner of the globe including many shluchim & heads of mosdos.
ch.info is silent? since when are they the ones who lead news in chabad, i guess you think its a major operation there in ch.info. well its not.
When did the Rebbe put Krinsky in charge of the Mosdos?
Anonymous said...
Krinsky?
Where is you respect for a person the Rebbe appointed to be a leader of the mosdos?
Moshe Rabeinu appointed his personal emissaries. Moshe chose the best and the finest. They were called the Meraglim.
At the time Moshe appointed them they were worthy Tzadikim but once they sinned, they no longer represented Moshe and were banished and punished.
Krinsky is currently a "Mesarev Ledin", that means that Krinsky has the Halachic status of someone who is contempt of (Rabbinical) Court.
Krinsky may have been a fine fellow at one point, earlier in his life, when the Rebbe used him as his "Baal Haagola" (The Rebbe's Car Driver) and other missions but once he is in contempt of Beis Din, it would now be a disgrace to the Rebbe, to use any honorary title, upon someone who is openly in violation of Jewish Law i.e. in contempt of Rabbinical Court.
Anonymous said...
Krinsky?
Where is you respect for a person the Rebbe appointed to be a leader of the mosdos?
Shmais never posts anything political. I sleep better at night when I only read his site.
The problem continues to be that the Rebbe's Tzavah is not fulfilled.
Krinsky and Shmetov together decided that it would be better for the "Rebbe" and better for "lubavitch" if the Rebbe's Tzavah is NOT fulfilled.
Untill today they seemingly got away with it.
But they will have to face the Rebbe, either chas Vesholom up there or iy"h down here, so I would suggest to them to get their act together and pull out the Tzvaha and face the facts.
Veyofo Sho Achas Koidem!!!!
The solution to the dispute over the ownership of the Rebbe's Library was to declare it communal property. That was a victory for the Rebbe for ever celebrated on Hei Teves.
Why don't we push for the same here? If the Rebbe's private library is COMMUNAL PROPERTY, why isn't 770, the community's shul, communal property?
Rebbetzin Chaya Mushka said "My Father and the library belong to the Chassidim". Al achas kama ve kama, 770 belongs to the Chassidim. The gabbaim belong to the Chassidim -- in the sense, there there only to serve the tzibur. As of Krinsky, could he say the same of himself? I won't answer that one! Just stick to my first idea: demand that 770 be declared the unquestioned property of the Chabad Chassidim.
Rafael,
I think the Gabaim did make a similar point but the problem is that Krinsky is being hypocritical, here.
Theoretically speaking Krinsky claims that everything belongs to "Aguch".
But WHO is Aguch?
In truth you are right, that Aguch is owned by all Lubavitcher Chassidim and this was the Rebbe's Point and the point of the argument of Gabaim, that anyone "in charge" is only like a "Trustee" but not "then boss" per say.
Although, this is the TRUTH, yet the way Corporate Law, is written, permits Krnsky to attempt to HIJACK, 770 for himself with his paid crony's.
Krinsky in effect says "I" am Aguch (Any V'Afsi Oid).
The Gabaim say that "the people" decide by Popular Vote, as to who is in charge and Krinsky says NO, "I" decide everything myself with my paid crony's.
So in reality, what krinsky is REALLY saying is EXACTLY the same as that which Barry said about the Sfroim case.
Barry said "it's MINE" and he gets to decide if to sell it or whatever.
"This Home is MINE", Barry said, (about 770) - EXACTLY as Krinsky says today, that he will "throw out the Rebbe's Gaboim and Mispaleleim from shull"!
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