Thursday, April 27, 2006

Who is Supposed to Approve the Candidates - According to the Rebbe?


HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE REBBES SICHA:

From Sicho Shabbos Parsha Matos Mase 5746 (Tzadik Lamelech)2.


There are some individuals that decided, for some reason, that they are the owners of this schunoh and they are the ones that need to govern and control the entire community.For example:

When there is a need to elect a Rov to the schunoh – he, together with his friends are the ones that will establish and decide who is suitable to serve as Rov, and they will appoint him as Rov.It is unheard of such thing in Israel [Jewish Nation] – that an “askon” (activist) or few “askonim” (activists) will decide on their own on electing a Rov.

When they elected a Rov in Jewish Kehilos – Rabbonim, Torah Gedolim etc., decided who are the suitable candidates to serve as Rov, and not “askonim”, even “askonim” that have smichoh (Rabbinical ordination) to be a Rov, because it is known what the ñî"ò writes that the opinion of áòä"á (laymen) is the contrary of the opinion of Torah,

and like it was mentioned many times, that this, refers toáòä"á (laymen) that have smichoh to be a Rov because if it refers to people that do not have smichoh it will not be necessary to mention it, it will be self understood.

Even more so, when this “askon” announces openly - (after trying to speak quietly behind the scenes, and did not help) – that if his candidate for Rov will be elected, then he will give money etc., and if not he will not give …

and through this he wants to force on the entire community his opinions – there is no bigger shochad (bribe) then this!Such monies, given for the so called benefit of the community, with the condition that they should do as per the will of the one that gives the money – are not even from “klipas nogah” … (and definitely, they are not from Kedushoh), therefore, it is forbidden to use this monies for Kedusha matters!

No one will force his opinion on the community for a monetary bribe!

You don’t want to give money (only if they will accept your authority) – do not do any favors, your money is not needed, because, “By Me is the silver and by Me is the gold says Hashem”

…The wonder is – how he is not ashamed to say openly that if they will elect his Rov, then he will support the Rabbinical establishment, when everyone sees that this is a matter of “shochad” (bribe) in the most severe way!

6 Comments:

At April 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

למה הוא מסרב?

הוא מוכן לבא רק לד"ת לפני זה שמינה אותו לרב...

לא לפני רבנים ניטראליים ולא לפני זבל"א.

 
At April 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even though I am of the opinion that we need more Rabbonim to solidify the Badatz, I cant help but agree fully with Rabbi Schwei that these election are illegal.

It is hallachically prohibited to force a person to become a partner in an entity where the candidate is his nemesis. Unfortunately, those trying to force this election are motivated by greed and revenge.

I believe that the overwhelming majority of Anash will boycott this election. The community was not timely apprised of the nature of the candidates and was not given ample time to digest all the pros and cons of the candidate etc.

I also believe that some of the candidates come with baggage that may disqualify the from running in the election according to the by-laws which where written up with the approval of the Rebbe.

 
At April 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I DONT UNDERSTAND, IF THERE WAS A HOIRAAH FROM THE REBBE FOR RABBANIM NOT TO MIX IN THE ELECTIONS, THEN WHY IS RABBI OSDOBA MIXING IN?

WHY DOES RABBI OSDOBA WRITE THAT THE ELECTIONS ARE BEING DONE WITH HIS APPROVAL? WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD.

IF IT IS PERMISSIBLE FOR RABBI OSDOBA, IT SHOULD BE PERMISSIBLE FOR HARAV SCHWEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
At April 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

בתחילה חשבתי להצביע


וכי מה אכפת לי שיהיו בחירות?


אבל אתמול שמעתי בביכנ"ס שזה לא פשוטו וכל הדבר הזה שהחביאו עד עכשיו את המועמדים לא מריח טוב


ועכשיו כשאני רואה שבכלל עושים את זה בלי הסכמה של הרב שוויי


ועוד במטרה להתחמק מדין תורה



אז לא נראה לי שאני אלך לבחירות האלה. שב ואל תעשה עדיף

 
At April 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

אני בחרתי ברובשקין ומאד מעריך את פועלו הרב בהרבה מישורים. ואם כל זה אני אי"ה לא אבחר בבחירות הקרובות.

משיחות אם חברי יש הרבה שעשו כמוני

 
At April 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only the Guilty Avoid Din Torah's of Zabla

אני לא משם ולכן לא מבין - למה באמת
לא רוצים ללכת לדין תורה?

למה לא ללכת לדין תורה ולגמור הכל בדרך של שלום?

 

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