770 News and Views – Shabbos Mevorchim Hachodesh Sivan - Shabbos Achdus!
The entire Shabbos in 770 was filled with an overwhelming atmosphere of Shalom and Achuds, where all Mashpiim were brainstorming ideas of how to bring about peace in our community. Before Musaf, the speaker in 770 began his speech with a story from Rabbi Mindel who was called in by the Rebbe, and told him that he just received a Letter from a Jew in Sing Sing Prison. The Rebbe expressed great pain asking:
“What is a Jew Doing in Sing Sing Prison”?
The speaker connected it, to a Jew in the Midbar and to Shalom and Achdus.
After Davening, Mashpiim in 770, Farbrenged the entire Shabbos, to try and find ways to make Sholom between the Rabbonim and the entire community who are divided, taking on different sides of the Machlokes.
The Call for Peace and Compromise was loud, clear and unanimous, but it remains to be seen if the Rubashkin hardliners will be willing to compromise and reach a lasting agreement.
Everyone at the Frbrengen agreed that the best chance for peace was the fair and equitable agreement reached on Apr. 30th to cancel the illegal elections. Although both sides signed the agreement before the elections, yet Rubashkin’s side refused to honor the agreement signed by their own people, on Election Day.
After Mincha in 770:
Rabbi Y.Y. Jacobson spoke at the special Kinus Achdus Farbrengen where all Anash assembled to unite in accordance with the Rebbe’s Bakasha Nafshis:
Rabbi Jacobson told many stories on the theme of Achdus, while speaking out publicly against the current Machlokes of the Rabbonim. He said in the name of Rabbi Marlow that all Machlokes stems from the desire for Money and Kovod (i.e. Power) and that it wasn’t worth having the entire community destroyed, for this and that a compromise must be reached at once.
Rabbi Jacobson pointed out that Yidden have always had their differences but settled matters at an impartial Beis Din who sometimes decided who is absolutely right and who is wrong and sometimes the Beis Din would reach a Pshara – a fair compromise.
Everyone listening to the Farbrengen, said that Rabbi Jacobson was right and the only reason the Machlokes is unsolvable in CH, today, is only because Rubashkin an his team have so far refused all reasonable efforts at peace and compromise, including a call to a Din Torah by an impartial Beis Din of Zabla which resulted in the Beis Din issuing a Psak Din against Rubashkin, to permit having him sued in court.
posted by DaasHakohol @ Sunday, May 28, 2006
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DaasHakohol said....
The Rebbe expressed great pain asking:
“What is a Jew Doing in Sing Sing Prison”?
A similar question on everyone’s mind today is:
"What is a Yid doing in Fort Dix Prison"?
More importantly:
"What is a Yid from Fort Dix Prison, doing, in the Vaad Hakohol"?
as the famous saying in 770 this this shabbos "achdus against whom" everyone is for achdus as the long as the "other side" does what i want
oiy vey is tzu unz alleh we need to look what we can do not what someone els shall do.
as the famous words of JFK president ofthe usa said
"ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can for your country"
let us look into ourselfs and find what we do to make peace within vechulu
The difference is than in Fort Dix he sat in prision in the Vaad he runs it like a prision
Everyone here is wrong in the machlokos nobody wants to give in.
Is Rabbi YY Jacobson in favor of the Nash/Sperlin pursuit of justice, is he neutral on the personalities, or does he facvor the Rubashkin/Lang/Plotkin leadership?
As much as it is bad to be overly obsessed with the machlokes in CH, it is equally as bad for Baaley Batim to be obsessed with "Forcing Peace" upon Rabbonim and criticizing Rabbonim for being Guilty in causing the entire Machlokes, even if you say "Both are Guilty".
The only ones who come out "Bekovod" out of Rabbi Jacobson's speech are the Lefties, who don't hold from either Rav.
All of our "Mashpiim" who pride themselves that they are going to "teach everyone" to make sholom, are so obsessed with eliminating the Machlokes that they have, themselves lost the sensitivity to Realize that the Mashpiim's own Involvement is equivalent to the Mashpiim, themselves, giving a "Smack in the Face" to both of the Rabbonim.
Jacobson, may pride himself that he was "even handed" in criticizing both Rabbonim equally and not favoring either one perhaps. But doesn't Jacobson realize that what he did on Shabbos in 770 was a Smack in the Face to Rabbi Osdoba AND a Smack in the face to Rabbi Schwei - simultaneously, all at the same time!
If anyone would have given a Smack in the Face, Chas V'Sholom, to only one Rav, we would all jump on him as being a Mechutzaf and a Baal Machlokes and throw him out from 770.
Somehow, we have all become so involved in the Machlokes that we "Approve" of "A Smack in the Face", as long as the person doing the Smacking, makes sure to "be fair" and make sure to "Smack both Rabbonim in the face".
Is it any better to say to both Rabbonim, Chas V'Sholom, that they are both doing wrong by being involved in the Machlokes, with all the extremely Harsh Negative criticism, from Rabbi Jaconson in 770 - even saying to the Rabbonim and to Anash, that it causes Hepech Hachayim of their children, as with the story from the Chafetz Chaim ! ! !
Just because you want the title "Sholom Maker" doesn't give YOU the right to be Mekatreg on Yidden and to smack BOTH Rabbonim in the face, all at the same time!
Didn't Jacobson Realize that Rabbi Schwei is sitting on the Bench, right in front of him, at this Farbrengen in 770? ? ?
Is that Rabbi Jacobson's Derech Eretz for Rabbi Schwei, to stand in front him for a 1/2 hour, telling him Musar in front of thousands of people in 770, that: "it's wrong to fight over the Hechsher" or to fight over Kovod or Money - quoting Rabbi Marlow, to support Jacobsons views ? ? ?
But Rabbi Y.Y. Jacobson shouldn't be criticized for doing that, because he also Publicly Humiliated Rabbi Osdoba, in this Machlokes, at the same time - so that makes it "OK" as long as we are "fair" and makes sure to humiliate "both", Rabbonim, fairly.
If Rabbi Y.Y. Jacoboson is the Mashpiah of the Youth, as he mentioned in his speech, no wonder our youth are so cynical of the Machlokes, if this is what they hear from their own Mashpiah Rabbi Y.Y. Jacobson, where Jacobson essentially is saying to his youth, that both Rabbonim are equally wrong, for maintaining the continued Machlokes ! ! !
Open Letter to Y.Y. Jacobson:
The Rebbe often quoted the Torah from the Baal Shem Tov on the Maamar Chazal:
"V'Nifroin Min Haadam B'Fonov Usheloy B'Fonav"
The Baal Shem Tov explains that when L'Maalah, they want to decide what to do with you for your own "good deeds", they bring you to a situation where you see someone else doing the same and the question is posed to you (Milmaalah):
"What do you think HE deserves?"
According to what you Pasken on the other person, then Milmaaleh it is considered that you paskened this on your own self, too!
Y.Y. Jacobson,
Keep that in mind, before you become so self Righteous, to be such a Mechutzaf in front of Rabbi Schwei, to "give him Musar and a Chelek" in 770, (and granted that you did the "same" Chelek to Rabbi Osdoba too) for not seeing things your way, as to "whether or not, they are right or wrong for maintaining their opposing positions, in this Machlokes".
Remember Y.Y. Jacobson, what you are "Playing With" here:
When you're "spitting" on "both" Rabbonim and on-top of all the Rabbonim's followers (All Chassidim, included), all kinds of Harsh words and "pointed stories" of Terrible things that bestow them, which could happen as a result of the Machlokes, (Like the Misnagdishe Magidim would do, in the time of the Baal Shem Tov)...
As far as G-d is concerned, you have now signed an identical "sentence", on yourself, too!
Rabbi Jacobson, you're a great speaker, but have "a little Sechel" also, to respect the Rabbonim's choices, even if, their choice is to maintain their positions, in maintaining their Machlokes, (as this is in fact the case, so far) even if their Machlokes "bothers you"!
Whether the Rabbonim agree with each other or not, is no ones business except their own and we have no right to mix in.
If you had Respected the Rabbonim, even when their differences bother you, then your Mushpaim, youth who are Mushpa from you would have respected both Rabbonim too.
Your Mushpaim, youth, are reflecting YOUR own Cynicism, towards both of the Rabbonim!
Jacobson's Chutzpah in 770 said...
Harsh Negative criticism, from Rabbi Jacobson in 770 - even saying to the Rabbonim and to Anash, that it causes Hepech Hachayim of their children, as with the story from the Chafetz Chaim ! ! !
When the Rebbe said that someone was in a Coma and his life depended on Sholom that was the Rebbe seeing the existing situation already in progress and trying to save the Life of someone who was on his way out..
Same situation was with Chofetz Chaim who had seen and existing child who was on his death bed and trying to save him by making Sholom.
What Jacobson is doing is exactly the opposite of what happened in these 2 stories. Instead of curing the already sick and saving them by making Sholom...
Jacobosn is issuing a threat to a healthy community, that "they could be Punished" Chas V'Sholom if they don't behave B'Sholom.
Jacobson (with all his horror stories) is guilty of "Al Tiftach Peh Lesoton"!
Jacobson's Chutzpah in 770 said...
Harsh Negative criticism, from Rabbi Jacobson in 770 - even saying to the Rabbonim and to Anash, that it causes Hepech Hachayim of their children, as with the story from the Chafetz Chaim ! ! !
Regarding Jacobson Chutzpah to criticize the Rabbonim for Machlokis, I would like to ad that he was not so even handed since Rabbi Osdoba seems to have been tipped off as to what was coming and Rabbi Osdoba made sure not to be in 770 for Shabbos Achdus.
The brunt of the onslaught from Jacobson seems to have been directed at the only Rav who was present at the Farbrengen, Rabbi Shvai.
It's very nice of you to say that you want comments that are fair to all rabbonim. Now how about making your articles more even-handed? I can assure you that Rubashkin is not the only thing people talk about in the mikva.
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