Mara Deasra Harav Schwei Shelita EVICTED by Vaad Hakohol Members - Rubashkin, Plotkin and Lang
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The Eviction is officially addressed to the "Secretary" of the Mara Deasra with the Full Knowledge that Rabbi Schwei would Fear for His Life to be ALONE in the office with a Convicted Felon, Rubashkin, who has already assaulted several people including Yisroel Best just a few days ago - without the protection and help of his secretary.
Anyone who remains silent and refuses to protest against the Outrageous Chutzpah against the Eviction of the Mara Deasra, Abir Shebeabirim, Harav Aharon Yaakov Schwei Shelita - from the Badataz Offices, now becomes a Partner's in the Eviction, with Rubashkin and Company.
The Eviction is officially addressed to the "Secretary" of the Mara Deasra with the Full Knowledge that Rabbi Schwei would Fear for His Life to be ALONE in the office with a Convicted Felon, Rubashkin, who has already assaulted several people including Yisroel Best just a few days ago - without the protection and help of his secretary.
Anyone who remains silent and refuses to protest against the Outrageous Chutzpah against the Eviction of the Mara Deasra, Abir Shebeabirim, Harav Aharon Yaakov Schwei Shelita - from the Badataz Offices, now becomes a Partner's in the Eviction, with Rubashkin and Company.
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posted by DaasHakohol @ Thursday, June 22, 2006
60 comments
60 Comments:
This is not only wrong but probably strategicly, a stupid move.
rubashkin is known for strategically stupid moves. his whole impeachment strategy was stupid. The guy doesnt think before he moves.
This is a sign that Rubashkin is conceding defeat.
Rubashkin is getting desperate as He sees that THE END of his regime is near.
Rubashkin's days are numbered and he is behaving like a desperate Lunatic who makes very foolish moves.
Every single move he and his team have made recently has caused them to loose more and more.
Someone was seen in CH today, wanted to buy the "Movie Rights" to the Rubashkin Scandal, Comedy Show.
Whom should they strike a deal with?
Does it happen often that you're banging out these articles on your keyboard when you realize you're frothing at the mouth?
I'm taking no sides in anything, I'm just telling you to go find some preoccupation that your kids might be able to look up to one day.
BTW With all your concern about democratic process and the voice of the people, how is it that posted comments are suspiciously one sided?
Nothing to do with "everyone is entitled to my opinion" mentality, does it?
My self esteem has taken a major hit. I'm actually typing a response to this ****. Look at what 2:30 AM can do to a person. sigh
face reality:
We live in a partisan world.
When is the last time you had seen Yechi on Shmais?
Ever?
When is the last time you had seen anything even remotely meshichist'dik on COL?
Ever?
When is the last time you had seen Yechi or anything very meshichist'dik on crownites.info?
Ever?
When is the last time you had seen ZAYA on Chabad.info or 770live?
Ever?
When is the last time you had seen Yechi on habad.org?
Ever?
At least, at DaasHakohol.com, we have an open debate and both sides of arguments are addressed, as long as it is written with respect to both Rabbonim and not knowingly in accurate information.
The Rebbe warned Kotler and or his Folowers that if they ever publish his "chidushim" The Rebbe will give out a sefer to Shlug Up every single thing he says. They knew the Rebbe was serious and could and would do it, so they never published his chidushim, b'chayov of kotler.
I think Krouse was kiked out of the Badatz because he was accused of very effectively, throughly and totally Shluging Up, Segal's Marei Mekomos so they feel very threatened by him.
Because their entire Metzius, Rides on a Big LIE, that only "they" are the "elite" and that only "they" and no one else knows how to learn "better" kaviyochol - like Kotler used to say.
It's a Kal Vechomer:
If even Rabbi Schwei's smallest Meshores can be so intimidating because his Greater Lomdos "blows away" and outsmarts Segal, Vechulu.....
Can you imagine how much more threatened they feel from Rabbi Schwei's Geonos and Lomdes?
Rabbi Schwei would even edit and even "fix up", even Rabbi Reitports Chidushim and sforim, for him!
It seems like the Iker is the "Vechulu".
Who is the "Vechulu"?
Zirkind?
The end is near for the mechihisten right wing Schvei/Hertzog gang. Even though Rubashkin is as zany mechihisten as Hertzog, Mutckin, Best, Knauss and that whole crowd, he at least has been able to dialogue with the leftie/mainstream movement.
Itche,
Yidden always had some MISYAVNIM who tried ASSIMILATION in order to find favor in the eyes of the Goyim (or in the yeses of Hagoy Asher Bekirbecha).
It never worked for them!
None are left by now.
They are all extinct by now!
Every see a 3d generation Conservative or reform today, who even knows he is still Jewish today?
Anyone who is Conservative or Reform today, it's because they were Orthodox in the prev generation (or 2) ago.
Their will not be any second or 3d generation Anti's. They will not even know the meaning of the word.
it is about time they got rid of kraus
maybe now they can get rid of brook
Alter,
You're being silly.
They didn't throw out krouse.
They threw out Rabbi Schwei!
Because the Wildman Rubashkin is liable to poshut kill - poshut kepshuto - especially with his new "HETER" of "Din RODEF" = License to KILL = Jihad.
דבריך אודות אלו שאינם משיחיסטים מעורר בחילה
ואם כך אתה מדבר זה רק מראה על מצבך
Michoel,
You right Rubashkin, being a very desperate person now because he feels his end is near, is now more desperate and more dangerous than ever before and more unpredictable than ever before.
In the Olden days:
When the Goyim wanted to Kill and harm Jews they would have their Galochim, make a JIHAD SPEECH to get all the Soney Yisroel incited to make a Pogrom and it most often worked for them.
Sharpton in CH was warned that he could be arrested for incitement to riot, when he tried the old Galochim's ways.
Today, DIN RODEF, accomplishes the same thing but WORSE.
Din Rodef is not an incitement to RIOT.
Din Rodef, is in order to incite one to poshut KILL (as Yigal Amir and Baranes did)
No shortage of Meshugaim in the world to Pull the Trigger.
It only needs someone to INCITE THEM the Meshugaim (i.e uncontrollable tempers, like Rubashkin) to pull the trigger.
Even a PUNCH in the Face like Rubashkin did CAN KILL, as it has killed a Yungerman in a Parking Garage a few years ago!
The Arabs still use the Incitement to Kill TODAY and every day via their Galochim and it works for them unfortunately, haya loy sihisye.
In the Arab Language (if you know Arabic) they also have what they call "Din Rodef" in Arabic it's called "Jihad" = suicide bomber!
Its about time the Board of Directors took action against Mr. Krauss.
He single handedly is the hentch man for the corrupt people Rabbi Schwei has encircled himself with.
Moishe Chazak Uboruch! Your Good deads will not go unrewarded.
We are mispalel each day that the Vaad hakohol Moishe Rubashkin, Dr. Lang and R' Shmuel Plotkin are mazliach in their holy mission.
Yaher Koach to you three.
What is our side doing to solve the cituation. The court date is pushed off indefently. All we have are letters - the Rubashkin Phsyco camp is evicting - fighting etc.. What are we doing?
If they had locked Kraus at of the office there would never had been elections. Shvei and Asdaba would have got along.
I hear he was the only person ever thrown out of Antwerp – over there they don’t want somebody that makes Machlekes
We are hearing that you are twisting facts.
Apoparently there was a specific cause for ousting Kraus. Nothing to do with Harav Schwei.
Let them oust Harav Osdoba's hooligans as well and all will be better.
Ultimately, what a distortion of this nature does is build Rubashkin's credibility (I hope the opposite of what you are attempting....)
As I doubt if you will have the decency to post and respond to this based on previous experience, I am posting on your competitor's sites as well.
We need some Baalei Mesiras Nefesh Woman to stand on Kingston and pulicly reprimingd any woman that is not dressed tzniusdik. That is the only way to stop this. Woman will bee afraid to go on Kingston with sleevless shirts and miniskirts without socks.
Please allow me to throw in an
issue from a previous date -
TZNIUS. Some have expressed
a desire to compromise on this,
using the machlokis as a justification.
To those of you who want to go
against the standards of tznius,
YOU ARE SADISTS! That's right.
PROFESSIONAL SADISTS.
I mean, what can be worse than
torture of the mind?....
who is Rabbi Asdba's person since that hachsid LY Shipro pased away
I don’t think the story of the Rebbe and aron kotler posted above is accurate.
It is said that the Rebbe “threatened” to ‘shlug up’ any PRINTED chidushim/shiurim of his… (I don’t think he ever printed any… maybe because of this fear…)
Where are letters about the low leval of Tznius on Kingston Avenue.
You should publish pictures of those who walk the streets untzniusdik under the caption "Those that shame us". They'll think twice before venturing out like that again.
I agree with the idea and analogy but I dont thing the story with the Rebbe and Kotler is true. I dont think the Rebbe was ever by Kotlers shiur. What I remember hearing was that the Rebbe gave them a warning that he will do it.
Rabbi Osdobas personal secretars are:
Schneur Zalman Osdoba
Yaakov Osdoba
Levy Osdoba
Yossi Brook
Shlomo Segal
I don't understand Rubashkins family, don't they see where Moshe is heading again? Why don't they stop him!!! Maybe they waiting to have some vacation again!!!
The Story with Kotler is true.
You are too young to know.
Sheal Avicha Veyagedcha ZEKENECHA v'Yomru Lach!
Whoa!! Someone actually brought it up?!!
My wife is literally shocked to see what the local "neshamos d'ban" are wearing. We don't know what to tell out daughters.
How is it that even mature people from the most respected families in CH, down to the new age teens are dressing in ways that no orthodox jew would ever dream of.
When we were in other communities we never saw such things.
Our neighbor here said that the way people dress in CH is halachically fine but apparently CH is more 'relaxed' about these things. Some say other communities are just too 'uptight' about tznius and that they try to be 'very chassidish'. Is this true. What do the Rabbis here say? Is this really ok? It is really disturbing.
Everyone who is concerned about the dressing:
Go to each one of the Rabbonim, to do something about it.
Let it be a "race" to see which Rav will do something about it first! :-)
That is a sure way to get everyone moving real quick.
2) It's really the responsibility of Neshey Chabad, specifically Mrs Korf, Mrs Shpritzer and Mrs Light.
Here is everyone opportunity, for everyone to show their true colors.
If they mean Leshem Shomayim or if they only want Machlokes.
Whoever means Leshem Shomayim, then, between one machlokes to the next machlokes, take "a small coffee break", and do something for tznius in CH "also".
The Rebbe used to go to Kotlers Shiurim and "Shlug Up" every single thing that Kotler said and made an utter fool out of him that he is mamash an Am Haaretz Gamur..."
The above story that the Rebbe attended the shiurim of Rabbi Kotler is a total fabrication. The Rebbe absolutely NEVER attended a shiur by Rabbi Kotler. Period.
It's about time to oust the trouble makers.
Yasher ko'ach to the majority.
Anonymous said...
It's about time to oust the trouble makers.
Yep
Rubashkin is already well on his way to Fort Dix, it's just a matter of time, when his Parole Officer gets around to process him.
מישהו העלה עוד הפעם נושא הצניעות
בעבר מישהו טען שזה תפקיד הראש הקהל וזה אינו נכון
הרב מייצג היהדות והרב בוא זה שצריך לעמוד על המשמר שהענינים הרוחניים בשכונה הם כמו שצריך להיות
הראש הקהל היק זה שדיבר עם הממשלה וקיבל תקציבים וכדומה אבל הרב הי' תמיד אחראי על הידות בעירם
נושא הצניעות לטכס עצה מה לעשות עם הנוער שנפלט רח"ל מהישיבות
ועוד הרבה דברים שצריכים תיקון
למשל מישהו סיפר לי שהוא קנה ממתר ותברר לו אח"כ שזה חלב עכו"ם נכון שצריכים לראות ההכשר תחילה אבל למען השם איך מוכרים דבר כזה בשכונה
וכן מותר ללמוד מווילימסבורג למה יש חנות בשונת המלך שמוכר כל עיתון ומגזין שלא מתאים אם מישהו רוצה שילך לקנות במנהטן
בדברים האלו זהו תפקידו של הרב לעמוד חזק על נושאים הקשורים ךיהדות
I disagree that the Rov has to to do "everything" for us.
The Rav can be "meorer" about Tznius but he can't implement the tikunim BEPOLAL.
The Bepoal, is for the Vaad Hakohol to make sure it is implemented so it's all Rubashkin's fault since he keeps a monopoly on the vaad and doesn't even let Nash or Sperlin do anything.
As far as being "MEORER" for Tznius - what Rabbonim are supposed to do:
Both Rabbonim have already written plenty letters about this.
What more do you want from Rabbonim? ? ? ? ?
Now, Rubashkin has to to DO, something about it.
But Rubashkin is too busy making machlokes, to worry about Tznius.
Veod, Vehu Haiker:
Rubashkin wants Dvaka WITHOUT TZNIUS
That's why he makes the MIXED Purim Seuda and it's all a peula nimsheches from his lack of Tznius by the Purim Seudah, because he is PORETZ GEDER, and it makes a KALUS by everyone because of him.
Old Enough to Know,
If you are a Lubavitcher, how can you call such a person "Rabbi"?
If you are not a Lubavitcher, how would you know if the Rebbe was or wasn't there?
Ela Mai?
Must be that you are from the "Misyavnim" - "Shana" "Upiresh" - (Kale Gevoren B'Laaz)
I heard plans are underway for Rabbi Schvei and Knauss to ................
To those who ask about Rubashkin's family: Sperlin's family is the reason Sperlin dropped from the lawsuit. It might not be best to ALWAYS listen to your family. We need Chanina's leadership with the politicians now more than ever.
Sperlin's leadership. Ochun vay.
390 Kingston Avenue.
is owned by CONGREGATION TIFERES/ Rabbi Shane, and not the vaad etc
so now we have BAALEY BATIM telling Rabbonim what to do and whom they are aloud to bring into the BEIS DIN SHTIBEL!!!
Shumu Shomayim!!! the rabbonim are simple employees of the vaad hakohol - and are subject to their "aproval"...
Lo Hoya Kazos B'yisroel!!!
is this office the Beis Din?!
not even the KGB in communist Russia would imagine such a brazen Chutzpa (they would try to twist arms behind the scene... but not so blatently...)
Umsaimin B'tov
I think people can bring their points across without comparisants to the Nazi's or KGB. Wrong or right its a "bushe" to the people that suffered in that era.
כתבתי לפני שבת שהרב בעיר אחראי על מצב היהדות בעירו
ומישהו חלק עלי לכן העצה לראות מהו דעת רבותינו נשיאנו בזה היא לפתוח ספר ולראות מה שכתוב שם
אגרות קודש הרבי חלק ז עמוד שעד
"הנה בטח בהתאם להאחריות המוטלת על רבנים בכל עת וזמן ובפרט בזמננו זה ובפרטי פרטיות בשכונה של צעירים ...הרי נוגעת ההנהגה וכן הדרכה להדגיש בימינו אלה עניני צד המעשי בשמירת שבת טהרת השפחה חינוך הכשר כו' כו' והאריכות אך למותר"
אגרות קודש אדמו"ר הריי"ץ חלק י' עמוד קמד
"כל רב אחראי הוא בעד מצבם הרוחני של בני ובנות עדתו ומאהבת המקום אהבת התורה ואהבת ישראל לא ינוח ולא ישקוט כל עוד לא הגיעה קהלתו ללימוד התורה קיום המצות וחינוך כשר כדבעי למהוי"
רשימות חוברת נב "תכנית מכתב לחגיגת אגוה"ר"כך רב בעדתו ובביהכ"נ שלו צריך להכריז השכם והערב לשנות ולשלש ...שבת ...טהמ"ש...חינוך הילדים...רבנים נכבדים אנחנו האחראי"
אך יש נימה של אמת במה שכתבו שיש אחריות על עסקני הקהילה בזה אך כשנתבונן בדברי הרבי רואים שזה תפקידו של הרב לסדר שהעסקנים עושים בזה
וכה דברי הרבי בלקוטי שיחות חלק טז עמוד 565
"הנה לדעתי עצה היעוצה היא אשר א' התפקידים הראשיים של רב באה"ב..יהי' לחפש בתוך אנשי קהלתו אנשים בעלי כח השפעה..ולעשות מעין עזרים להרב במילוי תפקידו העקריים היינו החזקת הדת והפצתה בכל חוגי בקהלה בחיים היום יומייים שבשורה האחרונה זהו האחריות "
של הרב
regarding the address
Anonymous said...
390 Kingston Avenue.
is owned by CONGREGATION TIFERES/ Rabbi Shane, and not the vaad etc
390 is shain shul correct BUT 390A
is "auction ware" which is next door to shain shul and as the "vaad hakohol" rents the 2nd floor from them it has the right to say who can or cant go in there regardless if i or you agree or not
Anonymous said...
כתבתי לפני שבת שהרב בעיר אחראי על מצב היהדות בעירו
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Krich Nit in Himel!
Red Tzu Der Zach!
If you have any "down to earth practical suggestion" what you want the Rabbonim to do, which you feel confident would work, Say so and be very SPECIFIC (and you may suggest it Directly to the Rabbonim).
To "someone feel's kotlerised"
Being that shmuel kraus, a real Talmid Chochom, that was able to shlug up R' Segal's Marei Mekomos, I think we have a real candidate for future Rav of Crown heights.
You forgot one thing:
It wasn't "Segal" who made the Mistake in his own Letter.
This was Rabbi Osdoba's Letter and Rabbi Osdoba's "Marei Mekomos".
No one has yet found any such Chacham Tzvi!
Regarding the mare mokom of the Chacham Tzvi the am horatzes here is gevaldik.
You looking in the wrong Chacham Tzvi!
There is another Chacham Tzvi which says that in the case of a beis din kovua the rov or dayan CAN be a nogea bedovor.
It's in the infamous:
"Chacham" Tzvi LANG!
BB said...
....the am horatzes here is gevaldik.
So WHO exactly is the Am Hoaretz?
מישהו העיר על דברי שאתן עצות פרקטיות מה יש לרבנים לעשות בכדי להציל המצב בקראון הייטס
מי אני לתת עצות אבל כשאתה שואל מה מונח אצלי
א)הנני יודע דאי טוב שנגע הפוליטקא נמצא בכל מקום אבל יכולים לקראו למנהלות של כל מוסדות של בנות ולומר איננו נכנסים לפוליטקא ואין אנו מעררים מעמדו של מנהל המוסד בשום אופן אבל כרבני השכונה האחראים לנושאי היהדות ובפרט ענין עיקרי כצניעות כרבנים אנו תובעים בתוקף את זה וזה וכו' ושהמוסדות יראו שאם א' הבנות לא שומע לזה גם מחוץ לכותלי בית הספר לא יסתכלו לצד השני ולטמון הראש בחול כי אם יעמדו בתוקף עד שהבנות יראו שהעסק רציני
בודאי יבואי יפי נפש ויטענו שאין להרחיק אף אחד
יש לשאול אותם מה הרוויחו מאיך שהיה עד עכשיו? שלא הרחיקו א' כי אם מאות ושברו את כל נושא הצניעות בשכונה
ולא להשאיר את זה בידי המנהלות בעצמם שבכלל נשים דעתם קלות וקל להתפתות
והשמועה אומרת שהם בעלי לב זהב אבל מחסד של אברהם יצא ממנו ישמעאל אלא צריכים מי שיעמוד על ראשם ומה טוב גבר
ב)לעמוד בתוקף שהחנוית בשכונה לא ימכרו בגדים שאין מתאימות הנני יודע שרוב הבנות לא קונות בשכונה ויבואו יפי נפש ויטענו האם עדיף שיסתובבו בחוץ צריכים להראות שבגדים אלו לא מקובלות וקל להגיד את זה כשנוגע לפרנסת יהודי אבל בענינים עיקריים כזה אין להתפשר וכשרב מגיע לחנות ואומר שכרב השכונה הנני פוסק שזה לא לרוח היהדות והחסידות ואעמוד בתוקף שכולם ידעו שהנני נגד חנות זה יהי' לזה השפעה
וכן בנוגע חנות שמוכר מגזינים
כשנפתח עס און בענטש הרב בענצ'י שמטוב צעק אז סברענט א פייער
טוב הוא הי' חסידישע איד אבל קנאי וקצת פנאטי מה רע אם יכולים לקנות סנוויטש אבל חנוית כאלו בזה הי' צודק אני יודע שזה נשמע כמו מאה שערים אבל כשדברים יוצאים מידי שליטה צריכים לעמוד בתוקף
ג)בנוגע הנוער הי' איזה מוסד שנפתח אינני יודע איזה הצלחה יש לזה אבל מסתמה אם יש עדיין נוער ברחוב יש עדיין מקום לפעולות שיכנסו העסקנים וימצאו תורם ולפתוח בית ספר למלאכה או בית ספר עם עבודה עם מחשבים וכדומה
הנני יודע שקל לישב ליד מחשב ולהגיד לכל העולם מה לעשות אבל אם אתה שואל מה מונח אצלי זה מה שהנני חושב לעניות דעתי
Anonymous said...
מי אני לתת עצות אבל כשאתה שואל מה מונח אצלי
א)הנני יודע דאי טוב שנגע הפוליטקא נמצא בכל מקום אבל
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Please take your ideas and suggest to both Rabbonim and let us know what they answered you.
Since the 2 Rabbonim presumably don't read this blog.
After I wrote the other day, I was talking to many people about the Tznius issue. I am now more confused about the situation.
I spoke to one of the relatives of a Rav in Crown Heights and he said that in fact, there is NOTHING halachically wrong with how the women in Crown Heights dress?!?! Is this possible.
My wife has a Tznius brochure for women from Eretz Yisroel with diagrams and tasteful drawings. She showed it to a friend who said that "we don't follow that here." My wife did not understand what she meant.
Does anyone know what are specific Halachas about Tznius? I always assumed that women know these things as well as kashrus and shabbos. It seems that there is some confusion about all this here.
My daughter spoke up and said that here in Crown Heights the teachers think different about Tznius. First, she said that, she learned that Tznius is about the way you are supposed to speak and your attitude, that the teachers don't talk about anything specific about Tznius in dressing except for the school uniform. Also, she felt that the teachers dress "cool" in Crown Heights.
My wife spoke to another woman who said that it's not really the women's fault but that it's their husbands make them dress in a way that shows them off. What person would want his wife or daughter to dress in a provocative way?
Is this the twilight zone? What am I missing here?
Everyone please say Tehillim and pray for the safe return of 19 year old Israeli soldier Gilad ben Aviva. May we hear good news.
I confirmed that it definitely is true that The Rebbe warned Kotler and or his Followers that if they ever publish his "chidushim" The Rebbe will give out a sefer to Shlug Up every single thing he says.
They knew the Rebbe was serious and could and would do it, so they never published his chidushim, b'chayov of kotler.
BTW
Non of Rabbi Osdoba's followers have yet defended Rabbi Osdoba's claim that the Chacham Tzvi says, that a Biased Beis Din can Pasken!
Their is no such "Chacham Tzvi" nor is their any other posek in the world who holds that a Beis Din who is Nogeah Bedavar can pasken in matters where they are Nogeah Bedavar.
I think they were justified in throwing out Krause because they feared he is a much bigger Lamden and much bigger Talmid Chochom than them.
Harvey Lang , who is a disciple of his thug friend Moshe Rubashkin is learning from his ways. He had the Chutzpa to confront the Moro Deasro HoraV Shwei and speak to him with great Chutzpa in public during davening in 770. After being told to go away he persisted in his verbal attacks. When admonished by Meir Shreiber to leave the Rov alone, his response was similar to his fellow thug Rubashkin and he threw off Meir Shreibers yarmulke off his head in the same way the anti semites have done to jews in the past. It seems that in the letter that they wrote in the name of the Vaad Hakohol that they are taking the high road , there is really a new meaning to it. Taking the high road means the use of violence. We now have 2 thugs who claim to represent the Community. We therefore ask Lang and Rubashkin to RESIGN RIGHT AWAY and save this community from any more grief.
whats this i hear, that Rubashkin filed assault charges against Best?
Rubashkin assaulted best so he goes down for it.
In hopes of intimidating best, he figured he can make up a Lie and say that best hit him..
Only problem for Rubashkin is that their is a Video tape which reveals all. in the end not only will he have to go to Fort Dix but he will also be hit with filing a false police Report.
Apparently Rubashkin is a very big Meshichist, because that's the only thing that can save him now.
Simce that people forgot that beside Rubashkin and Lang there is other HOOLLIGANS at that camp!!!
YOSSI BROOK
YOSSEL KATZMAN
BEWARE OF DOGS!!!!
Why aren’t you saying as it is:
“Attack on the Rav’s Secretary”
“Beginning of the Eviction of the Mara D’Asroh”
By me being silent I have a hand in his eviction?.
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Wow that was easy!
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