Torah Says: You May Take Someone to Court if he Refuses Din Torah
posted by DaasHakohol @ Thursday, June 15, 2006
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7 Comments:
Why are you bringing from the Rambam when it's a Davar Haposhut?
What is obvious to me and you and to most people is not so obvious to Rubaskin and his Clan.
A Misnagid was once asked:
How do you know you know, their really is a G-d?
He answered, "It's a Befereshe Rambam" ...Yesod Hayesodos etc...
Likewise, what to all of us, is self evident and is lechatchila No Kasha, is to Rubashkin and his Clan, still not understood, even after you explain it to him...
Maybe the Judge will help him understand the Halacha.
Anonymous said...
Why are you bringing from the Rambam when it's a Davar Haposhut?
The davar haposhut is as every ben chomesh l'mikrra knows: asher tasim lifneihem and not before goyishe courts even when their ruling will be the same as ours would have been.
It is a tremendous chidush that we are allowed under certain circumstances to go to civil court.
The chidush here is the לשון from where the din is taken:
קראת חברך ולא ענך דחה קיר גדול והשלך עליו
YY,
Technically speaking, what you are saying is 'technically correct'.
But actually, practically speaking, in Lubavitch, every Ben Chomesh Lemikra knows, that it's obvious, that when the Mara Deasra, says that someone who refused a Din Torah can be taken to court, every child knows that it's perfectly OK to trust the Mara Deasra's Psak Din, even before he sees the same in the Rambam, Shulchan Aruch and all Poskim.
Especially regarding THIS issue, every child in CH knows that all 3 Mara Deasras permitted taking Fisher to Court. Because the Fisher scandal was widely known to every child in CH. Therefore, for any true Lubavitcher, in CH, it's a Davar Haposhut.
Even if you live outside of CH or if you are too young to know about the Fisher scandal, (but you are at least not an "Am Haaretz Gamur",) but you know the slightest bit of Halacha, it's also a Davar haposhut.
Perhaps you are not a Lubavitcher but to us, Lubavitcher's, a lot of things are a "Davar Haposhut", which is "Chidush" to others.
For example, in Lubavitch, every child, knows what it says in Simen Shin Chof Tes - not because he is Boki in Shas and Poskim, and not because he knows the entire Shulchan Aruch, Baal Peh, but because if your a Lubavitcher, then Simen Shin Chof Test, is a house-hold word.
If your a Misnagid, I agree it's a "Big Chidush" and many of them STILL "don't get it" even after we explain it to them, just Like Rubashkin and his followers, still "doesn't get it" today, on those issues which concern him.
If one were, r"l, very ill on Yom Kippur and required to eat(ppmk"s)--Would they proudly flaunt this information or eat publicly?
This is not a dovar hapashut by any stretech of the imagination! It is the (albeit: legitimate)exception to everything that we believe in and stand for. It is an embarassing, tragic, sickness!
YY,
Your are wrong!
Every child knows that it's a most elementary Davar Haposhut, that someone who is sick, where the Mara Deasra says he he may eat on Yom Kipur, He eats without any shame but is rather proud to follow the Torah. Only a Misnaged would "feel bad" or be "ashamed" to listen to a Rov to follow Shulchan Aruch.
Years back, in Williamsburg, when someone was sic and needed Hatzalah, (before the days of Hatzalah Ambulances), some people to "ashamed" would slow the rescue by using a Child to carry and "run with Oxygen", On Shabbos, to rescue those in danger.
Today, REGULARLY, Lubavitchers go out of 770 with their Talis On Yom Kipur, in front of Thousands of bystanders WITHOUT ANY SHAME, to Drive the Ambulance to save a Jewish Life!
I guess "you" would first run to find a Rambam or Shulchan Aruch or Poskim, before Driving on Yom Kipur to save a life, or perhaps you would "hide in shame" to drive (never mind eat) on Yom Kiper, to save a Life.
Likewise, the Lefty's are ashamed of their Rebbe, and whenever anyone asks them if the Rebbe is Moshiach, they become Red in the Face and don't know where to hide their head in Shame.
But for a Real Lubavitcher, it's all the same, A DAVAR HAPOSHUT and he's PROUD of it!
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