Rubashkins Violent, Aggressive Assault on Yisrael Best - NEW LETTER by Best
Photo above is from the Video File, where we see Rubashkin removing his jacket in what appears to be his PREMEDITATED move to get ready to Attack and Assault (immediately preceding his engaging Yisrael Best).
Rubashkin engaged Best several times that Monday Night.
When he assaulted him physically, the first time, he had his jacket on. Shortly thereafter, he engaged him once more (first removing his jacket) but this second attack (the photo above) fortunately was only verbal (although the stage was clearly set to be physical as well, as you can see for yourslef, in the photo). Tis first attack with the jacket on was highly violent and physical.
posted by DaasHakohol @ Monday, June 26, 2006
36 comments
36 Comments:
do we get to see this video?
We prefer not to have to show the video because we don't want to see Rubashkin in Jail.
But if Rubashkin keeps up his current role of violent criminal activity, we may not be able to afford to wait.
You don't want to see him in jail? do you think he will stop?! he will not untill he is in jail.....
At this point it really doesn't matter what he does or how he acts. He is a mesarev ledin, an "alim" a control freak which is out of control and can arm in many ways. We must do anything to prevent him from continuing holding the kehila hostage. He has his "rabbonim meetaam" covering up for him protecting him and sticking up for him. LETS WAKE UP AND ACT NOW BEFORE THE BEAST ATTACKS AGAIN!!! PLEASE people stop dreaming and looking from the side. Only a UNITED DAAS HAKOHOL can stop this horrible situations we living in. YIDN HOT RACHMONES!!!
nahh
looks like a cellphone picture
There is valid dispute as to whether Best has authority to do this.
Even Rabbi Osdoba agreed that best should report him o Police (as long as he didn't realize it was his own personal Friend).
The only "valid dispute" of anyone who holds not to do it, are people who are themselves in the same boat or who are themselves nogeah bedavar or implicated - which is to be expected.
Anonymous said...
There is valid dispute as to whether Best has authority to do this.
Avreml,
Te same is with the parsha of showing the Books.
What's the big deal to "show the books" IF you are honest?
If your a crook, then you better believe it, that it's a very big deal, to make sure davaka not to show the books.
That's simple:
The Million Dollar question which people don't realize so easily is:
Question:
WHY would someone who is supposedly a very respected person, why would HE stick up for the Thug?
Answer:
Because "he knows" that once you open the books and see WHO are all the people who got illegitimate Money, HIS own name (and family) will be on the list!
So they now have no choice but to "protect" the Thug at all costs (no din tora and no court etc) because if the thug "goes down", they ALL go down with him!
That's why we call him rubashkin and "COMPANY"!
I first discovered this site this morning and am quiet proud to see that there is a silent majority out there that would like to see justice once and for all.
To Yisrael Best I would like to say the following: I don't know you personnaly but I support you all the way and I would like to say to Mr. Nash as well dont be nispoel from a few hooligans who are trying to scare you with Olam Habo as if they have the only set of keys! I mean these peolpe are ridiculus.
A clip is worthless show us the entire clip. This means nothing to both sides unless the entire untouched video is showed.
Anyway Why the in the world is This guy Best so involved is he bored.
Very nice letter!
I'm just wondering why is it necessary to use the netigim stationary?
yaacov,
1) Isroel Best is the Chairman of the Netzigim.
2) His violent attacker, Rubashkin, attacked him while Best was carrying out his duties as head of the Netzigim.
3) This was an Attack on a netzigim officer who was hit while he was IN his official LINE OF DUTY!
Best is the Chairman of the Netzigim and was Chairing the Netzigim meeting when a Violent thug attacked and injured him.
Anonymous said...
Anyway Why the in the world is This guy Best so involved is he bored.
I meant why is a normal Baal Teshuva involved with Netzigim.
Look after your family and have a god life why would anyone be so involved.
Anonymous, the answer to your question, bekitzur is, that he cares because:
He's a Lubavitcher.
Lubavitchers care about the Rebbe's Schuna, while those who are not Lubavitchers care only about themselves and their own family, as you say.
As the Rebbe says:
אני קאך זיך בקראונהייטס ע"ע - למרות הקרירות כקרח הנורא דאנ"ש שי' בזה
כ"ק אדמו"ר מה"מ
zev,
I'm not saying who was right and who was wrong, but the netzigim stationary should be used only for letters all or majority of netzigim consent should be written/published. The bodily abuse was not involving everybody.
If Moshe Rubashkin would use Vaad Hakohol stationary to clarify his side of the story, I would also consider it incorrect.
Just my view, am I misguided?
yaacov,
Rubashkin is not permitted to use the Netzigim stationary since he is not a Netzig and has nothing to do with the Netzigim.
According to the ByLaws,
the Netzgim are THE BOSS of Rubashkin (and the boss of his 2 blind followers who rubber stamp whatever Rubashkin says).
As for Best's use of the stationary:
Not only are the Netzigim, Rubashkin's boss, but Best is THE HEAD of all of the entire Netzigim Body!
Not only that.
Best was assaulted not about anything personal but only because Rubashkin refused to recognize WHO IS his BOSS and Rubashkin was infuriated that Best was following the Rules of the ByLaws, which says that the Chairman of the netzigim is the boss of the chairman of the Vaad Hakohol.
In short:
Rubashkin didn't merely violently assault an individual person.
Rather Rubashkin assaulted the entire netzigim body, whom the Chairmen of the Netzgim represents.
Just as when Osama Ben Ladin assaulted the Twin Towers, it wasn't an assault against the structure, of "2 buildings", rather it was an assault against the entire USA, who are symbolized by the 2 buildings.
Even more so, an attack on the Chairman of the Netzigim is an attack on all Netzgim. Their can not be any more appropriate reason for the protest against this Thug, to be made on the official stationary of the entire Netzgim body, whom he assaulted!
Listen till we see a video we cannot believe anyone. All I see is Rubashkin putting on his jacket for Maariv. You cant see anything.
I dont understand how the person on this site can say that he is getting ready to throw a fist. ( unless there is a video )
By the way maybe there is another side of the story.
If you put your hands in pants and said yechi I might fight too.......... LOL
Hope this all ends with both sides dropping the charges since the police are def not interested in 2 people who fought and 2 sets of opposing wittneses. etc.
Zev and Yaakov,
stop talking past each other. The Netzigim and CHJCC share the same letterhead. Please read the bylaws. The netzigim only have three ccore roles: run the CHJCC elections and/or impeachments, receive financial reports, and dialogue with the CHJCC directors. The CHJCC Chair does not work for them. Chanina said that and he's your leader, so listen to a real old fashioned armtwisting backroom dealmaking poltiical boss.
As I overheard when he was elected "Moishe is FAR from Aaron's best"
why did you change the program again? i like the new one better
Here’s an idea.
Stage a boxing match and charge admission.
The money can go to pay “The Gibbor’s” - “Tomus Nafshi Im Plishtim” Award.
Depending on whose side you are on……. I can just hear the announcer, saying:
“And in this corner….wearing purple trunks, Moshe The Thug….
And in the other corner…..wearing kapotes - The Beis Din of Zabla.
Everybody likes to watch a good fight I’m enjoying this one for sure. See what happens when Boymelgreen offers the Zabla, Rabbonim, all his millions and is Shocked to see that The Honest Zabla, can’t be bought,- for the first time in boimelgreen’s life!
Makes him even more infuriated and he calls on “Moshe the Thug” to Swing a Right and and Swing a Left, until they “learn” to cave in to the power of Boimelgreen’s money.
To Zev: The function of the Netzigim is to supervise the entire election process of the vaad and to review the finances of the Vaad and the CHJCC.
They most certainly are not the “boss” of the board of directors.
If anyone is, it is the Rabbonim who are supposed to be “the boss.”
Unfortunately, the Rabbonim don’t function as a united Beis Din and certain wealthy people and their cronies have taken advantage of this.
Furthermore, Rubashkin has Sperlin and others ……wimpering and cowering because blood is thicker than truth in Crown Heights.
In a short time they will have driven everybody but their relatives out of CH. And it will be a nice gentrified shtetl for Fisher, Krinsky, Rubashkin and their extended family. Without the Rebbe.
farbrendt,
It's my understanding that the Bylaws say that the Netzgim OWN the CHJCC and the Vaad are only elected to serve. Likewise the Rabbonim don't "own" anything although, (if they are united as one beis din) - they can issue a ruling or clarification.
Just like we have courts and judges who can issue a ruling about your home. just because the Judge has Jurisdiction to decide what happens with your home, doesn't make him "BOSS". You are the Boss of your home.
farbrendt Says:
They most certainly are not the “boss” of the board of directors.
If anyone is, it is the Rabbonim who are supposed to be “the boss.”
Yehuda:
Please cite and quote the bylaws to prove this point. Having read them many times I d
Post the bylaws! Let’s get some emes up here. Enough with the accusations and distortions. You may be the good guys, but you are far from good.
Can you put the chacham tzvi tshuve?
DaasHakohol is not "only" a Web Site.
Daas Hakohol is "also" a Sefer by the then Chairman of the Netzigim Rabbi Yosul Reitzes.
In the Sefer DaasHakohol, everyone can see the ByLaws.
Turn to page # 222
Article V Section 1. Member Organizations.
"The membership of the council shall be comprised of the Synagogues in the community of Crown Heights who meet the requirements for membership set forth in these Bylaws"
This Article V describing the Members of the Council = the Baaley Batim of the Council was a highly disputed matter several years ago when Fisher was being sued by the Council Vaad.
Fisher was sued just like Rubashkin is sued now, in secular court, according to the permission granted by the Rabbonim (contrary to what Rabbi Osdoba now says, only because it's his personal Friend who is involved).
Fisher just like Rubashkin knew he is as guilty as can be and so desperately wanted it out of court at all costs. Fisher's solution was that the people suing him, the Vaad hakohol, have no authority to do so because the Vaad Hakohol is not the boss of the council (and also that the election was illegal).
Because if their is no plaintiff (against Fisher), then their can be no case against him, the Judge had to order "Court Ordered Elections" to resolve these 2 issues.
(I think it's not entirely impossible that Court Ordered elections will happen again in CH to allow CH to break free from the Corrupt Powers of Brook and Company and Likewise Court ordered Elections for the Head of Aguch to break free from Krinsky and company.)
Elections were set up (women voted too) and on the Ballot their were 2 principal issues:
1)Who are the members of the Vaad Hakohol (the names of individuals to vote for).
2) Much More importantly, "Who are the Member Organizations" i.e. who OWNS the CHJCC ?
Fisher desperately wanted it to be "the Mosdos" (because Mosdos depend on $ donations and so Fisher could put them in his pocket and have full control) as a second choice Fisher wanted it to be "All Jewish Residents of CH" (because that is so wide spread and individualized, Fisher could be guaranteed a totally dysfunctional "membership" which would not be able to Sue him).
The Third choice was:
3) The Shuls (to be represented by the shuls representatives, the Netzigim)
The Rabbonim, who wanted to make sure that CH had a functional Boss and that Justice would prevail against Fisher, told everyone to vote for this 3d choice which won with an overwhelming majority.
It was shortly after this vote, when the ByLaws were written by the Netzigim, based on the above.
Chanina does not wimper. He is a strong leader with vision, he is a bull. I have always seen him get right up to the politicians for his photos, fearless all the way. Let’s all support Chanina and restore our power,
Yehuda:
Yosul’s typically garbled paraphrasing (or is it yours?) doesn’t say anything. PUBLISH THE BYLAWS!!
Jake:
Is that so? Or are you kidding? Bulling one’s way into photo ops is nonsense. Chanina has some real accomplishments to his credit, but that ain’t one of ‘em. Besides that’s history. Moishy da man now! Everybody wants to pose with a felon.
But, back to the point, if he’s not a coward and a wimperer, why did Chanina jump off the court case? All the rationalization in the world can’t wipe that stain!
farbrendt,
Don't be lazy, buy the Daas Hakohol Book, - It has all the Bylaws - available in a Sforim Store Near You.
You can consider it a "Sales Pitch" to purchase the book which is honored to have the same name as this Web site :-)
(also the same subject - only a change of perspective)
i am a bit confused, didnt the rebbe say 3 times to abolish the netzigim? he said their job was over...??? (i think it was abolished so why did they restart?)
yossi m.,
If you study the sefer Daas Hakohol, you will get a real education in this and will no longer be confused.
The confusion is based on the following:
Their were 2 different Generations of Netzigim. The Original one before the Court Ordered Elections (in which case you are right, that THOSE had no reason to continue since their only real function was a One Shot Deal, to make Elections for Rabbonim and Elections for Vaad)
The Second generation of Netzigim were FIRST established as a "NEW CONCEPT" which never existed before, (in this framework) so the Rebbe couldn't have said that THEY are no longer needed because such a "THEY" never existed at that time when the Rebbe had said what he said. And so what the Rebbe said can't apply because such entity didn't exist.
The difference being that Al Pi Halacha, Fisher could have been theoretically right, that "the POWER is with the people" not with the Vaad and for sure not with the Netzigim, who truthfully were "NOTHING" until we VOTED for them, at the court ordered elections.
However once "WE the people" voted, at the court ordered elections to make netzigim, we have given the Netzigim "OUR POWER OF ATTORNEY" so to speak.
The court ordered election, had the power with the people because WE DECIDED whom to vote for as "The Boss of the Council" and the Boss of the Shchuna which is the same, in our case.
It was Our choice - all the people of CH. to choose the Netzigim to represent us.
In other words, the people are boss, al pi halacha - see the Sefer Daas Hakohol.
That doesn't preclude us from choosing anyone, even Fisher to represent us.
IF we had voted for Fisher, he would be our boss because we MADE HIM to be boss.
Same is with the Netzigim:
Until THAT DAY when the court ordered election made us vote - the netzigim were truthfully "NOTHING" as the Rebbe said that this was the Reality at the time.
However the Next Day, AFTER we voted, we created a Brand New Metzius called Netzigim and we took these "NOTHINGS" and made them to be our POWER OF ATTORNEY and now they are boss because WE MADE THEM to become so!
Farbrendt,
Even about the Meraglim, they say:
"Beoso Shaah Kesherim Hayu"
Is it true that a majority of the netzigim voted to impeach Nash? Does that mean that most are aligned with Rabbi Osdoba?
Shmulik
Most Netzigin did not approve the impeachment which required 2/3 and Rubashkin's impeachment attempt failed miserably.
Does that prove that most Netzigim are not with Rabbi Osdoba?
I would say that most netzigim are not "against" any Rav.
They all realize though, and understand that Rabbi Osdoba is inevitably, a Nogeah Bedavar here and so his say in the matter is understandably taken with that a reasonable expectation that he would and should be a Nogeah Bedavar - just as we would all be Nogeah Bedavar had we been in Rabbi Osdoba's shoes.
That is not to say that we don't respect Rabbi Osdoba Chas V'sholom, we just understand that it's humanly impossible for Rabbi Osdoba, NOT to be, a Nogeah Bedavar, in this case and anyone who thinks otherwise, is merely fooling themselves into thinking that the Rav is G-d.
Yehuda Says:
anyone who thinks otherwise, is merely fooling themselves into thinking that the Rav is G-d.
Are you saying that the Baaley Machlokes who dare not question Rabbi Osdoba's neutrality, are like the ELOKISTEN who think he is like G-d who can never, ever, be a Nogeah Bedavar, no matter what happens…?
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